How to Justify a New Newsgroup


What to Say

If you hope to persuade many servers to carry your newsgroup, you'll have to offer some numerical evidence that a significant number of people around the world will be interested in discussing the topic on the net. Ideally, you should include this evidence in your proposal on alt.config, and also include this evidence in the newgroup message which creates the newsgroup; at the very least, you should include the evidence in the newgroup message, as that's the thing skeptical news-server administrators are guaranteed to see. The key words to remember in this regard are "numerical evidence" and "on the net".

Here are some forms of numerical evidence you might offer to show that there is significant interest in a particular topic, on the internet:


What not to Say

A few warnings are in order about what you would be well-advised not to say in a proposal or newgroup message. There are a few very old mistakes you could make that will instantly push the "bozo button" of most news administrators, and will often be sufficient by themselves to doom your proposal to the low-propagation backwaters of "alt":

Don't Guess

People running news servers are not going to be satisfied with guesses, and they aren't going to care how many people bought the book or watched the movie or attended the convention. What counts is how many people on the internet have shown interest in the topic. There are, for example, hundreds of millions of rice and soybean farmers in the world, but very few of them have internet access; by contrast, there are many hundreds of specialized computing topics with devoted followings on the internet (as it's impossible to have internet access without using a computer). Find evidence to back the claim that there is sufficient online interest in the topic to warrant a newsgroup, and offer it-- don't offer guesses.

Never Say "Deserve"

No matter how you phrase this argument, it will offend the people you are trying to convince; deciding whether your topic "deserves" a newsgroup on their server is their job, and they won't take kindly to your trying to make that judgement for them. Stick to the facts, and leave the judgement-calls to the news administrators reading your message.

Don't Compare Your Proposal to a Joke

Many people make the mistake of saying, "alt.joke.newsgroup exists, so this should certainly exist!". What this argument neglects is that alt.joke.newsgroup, if it was created after early 1995, most likely has miserable propagation and no traffic. If that's not what you want for your proposed newsgroup, don't compare it with alt.joke.newsgroup, because most news administrators will cheerfully take you at your word on this sort of thing, assume your proposal has roughly as much merit as alt.joke.newsgroup, and throw it away without a second thought. :-)

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